Ok whatever, Why do you get so sentimental anyway, if you feel like leaving EF, because two people dont agree on something then go ahead and bounce, noone is stopping you..
this "debate" started because i said Messi was a huge dissapointment with argentina. Theres no way you can argue this, its absolutely true. With or without reason, the whole nation of Argentina put their hopes on messi, in 2008 - 2009 after Beijing, the guarantee the qualificiation to South Africa 2010. They didnt ask for messi to perform at the exact same level as he does in Barca, they can understand that he trains allyear with them, and grew up with them, they just needed him to be an important player, a 10 like his T-shirt says so, and help argentina make it through. After all its his national team and if he sweats the Barca shirt i should bleed for Argentina. Atleast thats the culture, and whats expected of him.
After all, he won the champions league, and destroyed the Spanish league, and won the copa del rey, the super cup, do i have to continue?
The people of argentina are dissapointed in him because they feel that even though he is the clear star with barcelona, in argentina he is far from it.
The major competitions have been very regular for him nothing extraordinary. The olympics, okay, arguable, the U-20, not really enough, he was a star while all the other ones war raw diamonds. the copa america, good, but still miles away from barca performance.
In Argentina the most he did was a few good goals, as a SECONDARY player, not taking the role of play maker and goal scorer, he was always an option, not the priority, not the 10, but the.. 18 or 19 maybe. The man incharge was always riquelme, or others, never him, he was just a gay that played good that could receive it everynow and score, like he did 12 times, in 36 games.
Rivaldo, ronaldinho, Zidane, KAKA, FIgo Ronaldo 9. Where all super cracks, that could play easily at the same level everywhere they went. Messi, in argentinas and mine opinion, can only play with certain players, in certain conditions, positions, with a certain coach. This is why they are dissapointed. Everybody is saying "he has less argentinian blood than a hamburger so dont expect much from him, because he wont do much" This is why they are dissapointed. He lacks leadership and honestly with comparing Barcas messi, and Arg Messi anyone would notice the difference.
In the world cup qualification he had "smal fllares" of good plays like the okay pass to Higuain that Uruguays keep intercepted.
Even today that barca lost you could see a better playing messi, he dribbled to two or three and lost it, he gave a brilliant header pass to Ibrahimovic, he cut one and shot a powerful shot that had to be saved by the keep. He did this twice, he would run, receive it pass it back, dribble, shoot pass, he was simply being messi even in a barca loss.
He never was the shadow of Barcas messi in argentina, this is why they are dissapointed. This is why he is dissapointing.
Uruguay, Brasil, Colombia, Peru, controlled messi completely, this is why they are dissapointed in messi.
All argentinians want to be able to say, Messi's argentina so and so. Like barcelona fans can. But no he is just one more player in argentina, maybe at times doesnt even deserve to be a starter.
In barcelona he wins three championships, is in way to the golden ball, Fifa player of the year etc. But with argentina he bearly scratches the ball, against uruguay it was another gray performance and thats way to many lately.
He is two different players. 1) A clear star with barcelona, goal scorer, play maker, he can break any defense with 1 and 2 touches. 2) A sh*tty player with argentina (this last year ATLEAST) that barely touches the ball, struggles to complete passes.
After comparing his face after a barcelona game and an argentina game you can see his whole problem, he is obviosly not satisfied with his own performances, you say a worried messi, not at all happy, because he himself knows that hes not half of what he is with barca
In simple terms, why he is the biggest dissapointment:
Look at his achievments:
In la Liga 2008-2009. 27 starts, 4 sub ins, 23 goals.
In the champs, 10 starts, 2 sub ins 9 goals.
Copa del Rey 4 starts 4 sub ins, 6 goals.
38 goals, 3 championships, and a magnificent season.
In the 18 games he played with Argentina in the qualifiers he scored 4 goals. Argentina barely qualified, and he started every game. He was lost 75% of the time.
This is why, he is the biggest dissapointment with a national team right now. Enough said, I cant make it any easier, if you want me to color it for you just let me know.
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