5 Reasons Why Leo Messi is Better than C.Ronaldo

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neoExodus
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With all the hype about the biggest football transaction of the year that never materialized, and United's Champion's League title, many people have put Lionel Messi on a second level and Cristiano Ronaldo on the throne by himself.

True, Ronaldo won both the European Cup and the Premier League title convincingly while Barcelona ended the year with only disappointment, but that doesn't change the fact that Messi is just a better player than Ronaldo.

Here are five convincing reasons why:



1) Messi is and has always been more of a team player than the Portuguese star. Ronaldo has received heat about his selfish play and while it is true that Diego Maradona called Messi a bit selfish in the last few weeks, the Argentinian does not reach the ridiculous levels Ronaldo can sometimes achieve.



2) Age at this point in the two superstars' careers is a very underrated factor. Messi is two years younger than Ronaldo. Usually this is not a considerable difference, but compare Ronaldo from two years ago to today, and you will definitely see a difference. Additionally, the maturity level of a 21-year-old player to a 23-year-old is significant. For proof of this look at Ronaldinho, who didn't really reach his peak until he was about 25.



3) To most fans the integrity of the game is a big topic. Diving always takes away from the honesty and beauty of football, and unfortunately, Cristiano Ronaldo has perfected the art of diving as much as Olympic gold medalist Matthew Mitcham. Messi, on the other hand, is a warrior. His small frame seems easy to take down. However, it appears like he always runs between someone's legs or stays on his knees to keep a play going instead of splashing onto what some dream to be a huge green swimming pool.

Another point for the Argentine.



4) Success with the national team is always key, especially when one speaks of Argentina or Portugal, and this is where Messi has the largest advantage. At only 21, the South American prodigy has won an U-20 World Cup, an Olympic gold medal, and has reached a Copa America final. Ronaldo, at 23, has been to one Euro final as the host, and that was four years ago, when Figo was still king in Portugal. It just always seems like Ronaldo ends up owing Portuguese fans a little more, while Messi, at his very young age, has given them plenty to gloat about.



5) Attitude is the single most important attribute in sports. Messi has it all. The way he takes punishment and keeps going and his never-say-die mentality are admirable. You will never see Lionel Messi on the ground unless really injured, or with his head down before the end of a game, or even jogging if there is any remote chance of getting to a ball that's seemingly unreachable. Now take a look at Ronaldo. While his talent and potential are unreal, we see images too often of him crying, arguing, or just throwing tantrums that take away from his abilities and his team's chemistry.

Diving and attitude go hand in hand, which is why it is normal to see Ronaldo on the floor for several minutes, and almost impossible to see Messi in the same situation.



All in all, I think Messi deserves to be put at a higher level than Ronaldo.

He's just a better player.
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Maradona is a dumbass. Messi's dribbling is what makes him unpredictable. He always takes on the defense and passes the ball only when there is a teammate in a better position than him. Its not his fault that he is covered by 3 defenders whenever he gets the ball. He has the knack for making those quality throughballs whether he plays for Argentina or Barcelona. Hell he could have racked couple more assists in yesterday's game if Henry wasnt too wasteful. I dont think it is selfish to dribble around the defence to take a shot or to find a teammate. However it is selfish to dribble and take a lot of shots that just go off target, which Cronaldo has definitely mastered.

Also Messi doesnt dive for the slightest reasons. I can see him diving in el classico inside the penalty box but outside the box not at all. In fact, yesterday against recreativo, a defender was pulling his shirt but he kept on running, skipped past a few more defenders and found Henry in open space who just let go of a weak ass shot straight at the goalie. He could have easily taken a dive but instead decided to move forward and make that perfect pass. On the other hand, Cronaldo would have rolled over to the goal line.


Cronaldo thrives on space, you shut that down and hes got nothing. Messi doesnt really need that much space because the ball is always glued to his foot, which explains why he can comfortably make his way around a group of defenders.

I have never seen Messi point the finger at his teammates (well only when he scores a goal and delightfully points at the fellow who assisted him, telling him to come over) or arguing with his teammates for a misplay (well except that one time against valladolid when Henry kept on messing up his passes and then turns around complaining to Messi and then Messi was like "wtf? Find your feet on this pitch you dumb sh*t" and then he set up 3 of eto'os goals instead cause Henry is amazing :roll:..........wait actually he did play a role in Henry's goal late in the game but yeah Henry is amazing :roll: )


Cronaldo vs Messi
Best footballer of the year : Cronaldo

Best footballer : Messi

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I do not agree with you that Messi is a better player than Ronaldo,Here i explain why

1)I think Barcelona can survive without messi but Manchester united can't without ronaldo so this makes ronaldo more important and influential to Man u.

2)Only time will tell what Messi is capable of.

3)I agree with you on this point.Ronaldo has certainly brought shame o the beautiful game.

4)Talking about achievements,i think Ronaldo has achieved a lot more than messi, he has won champions league,premier league(twice),Fifa pro player,uefa player of the year,uefa forward of the year and i m convinced that he will win this years Ballon d or and fifa player of the year accolades too;he surpassed best's record by scoring 43 goals in a single season,he was a finalist at euro 2004 and a semi-finalist at wc 2006 whereas messi has won a gold medal at Olympics and under 20 wc which are not considered as good as other tournaments,the only achievement messi has got is being a finalist at copa America but again copa America consists only two world class teams whereas europe has many.
5)One's attitude does not change a teams performance unless he is fighting with his own team mates.

So at the end of the day achievements makes a great player and Ronaldo has certainly a lot more than Messi.The only negative point about ronaldo's game is diving and i hope he will get rid of them as soon as he gets some maturity.

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Actually messi is more influential and important to the team than you might think. He has the most assists and is only 4 goals behind eto'o overall.

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Well you can't really seperate these to players
they are both without doubt the two best footballers in the world

so I won't go deep into who's better and why...
as with all footballers both have there strong and weak points
(ronaldo dives)
(messi never use's his right)

BUT...
the reason ronaldo will win WP is because he:
-Achieved more (in goal records, team achivements and personal achivements)
-Plays in england
-Has the X-factor, which no-one has really seen since ronaldiho's peak, messi is better at getting what needs to be done, done
but ronaldo can do things you wouldn't even dream about at times
like dinho at his best

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Actually Messi has the tendency to use his right foot to trap the ball and set it up for his left foot to quickly shoot, dribble or pass so he uses both his weaker and stronger foot in a pretty effective way.
NewBornProdigy wrote: BUT...
the reason ronaldo will win WP is because he:
-Plays in england
-Has the X-factor, which no-one has really seen since ronaldiho's peak, messi is better at getting what needs to be done, done
but ronaldo can do things you wouldn't even dream about at times
like dinho at his best
Its obvious he is going to win because of the great year he had winning trophies and scoring goals but...

He plays in england? So? The past winners have been from la liga and serie a. In fact the majority comes from these two leagues whereas Cronaldo might be the first one to win it for an english club.

I dont understand what you mean by the x-factor cause I never saw Ronaldinho at his peak. Is it using ridiculous moves? In that case, Messi loses out cause he never uses any moves to dribble around the two to three defenders that surround him, just simple touches.

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i respect both cr7 and lionel messi as outstanding players even though i think cr7s a diving pussy, but imo lionel messi is as good as cr7 if not better.

lionel messi is small yeah but he isn't phased by a player bigger and stronegr then him and he can take anyone on and most of the time beat them.

also to reflect on what shahensha said about cr7 doing flashy moves and messi doing simple touches etc, i think simple moves are better to be honest because its alright being able to do all the showboating moves but if you dont pull them off right and lose the ball you look more of an idiot then just doing simple moves which are probably more effective.
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Ronaldinho was a cartoon character

The things he just did at times were ridiculuos and silly, just unimaginable and they always worked was whats amazing...
The X-factor he had was just a simple WOW effect
He would do the most amazing, un-expected and impossible momments... over and over again

Ronaldo is alot like this, only difference is ronaldinho almost never lost the ball and turned up in most big games
Ronaldo is frustrating to watch, you sometimes just wish he would do the simple stuff...
But on his day he is the best in the world cause alot more goes right then wrong, and last season he was often on his day


And playing in england means alot (enough to be significant) considering the massive influence the english league is beginning to have on the world of football, I don't think its true but people claim englands a harder leauge then spain


and dude I ain't dissing messi, messi is great, mabye even better than ronaldo (especially at this momment in time) but this is what the award is all about... entertainment, entertainers, ronaldo is the better entertainer of the two...
eg.
mabye not the best actor (no pun intended), but the most entertaining one

To be honest, the basically should change it to
Most Entertaining Player of The Year

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The main reason why many people seem to like the english league is because of its pace, physicality and tenacity. Media and great marketing also plays a key role in attracting viewers but thats another story. However, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal arent the only teams that make up the english league. There are 16 more teams that are not up to par with these top 4 in terms of skill, not even close actually. What they lack in skill and aesthetics, they make up with fast paced and physical football and never say die attitude. Even torres admitted the english league isnt that amazing beyond the top 4. Makes sense why Cronaldo dominates against everyone but falls flat on his face when it comes to the top 4.

La liga doesnt have that pace or physicality but they do play skillful and tactical football. Linking passes together beautifully and attacking with smooth fluidity of the team. Even the low tier teams like Numancia and Getafe attack with great teamwork and have the guts to put up a good fight against the top tier teams, even getting a good result over them if they are not careful. Sure the build-up is slow but majority of the time, the ball ends up close to a striker inside the opponents box with him testing the goalie or defenders (They really need a world class striker for their efforts to be noticed). Also the fight to survive the relegation zone is between more than 4 or 5 teams with the point difference between the 12th position team and 18th or 19th team is only 1 points or 2 points (as was the case last season) making the league all the more exciting.

Id rather see a calm and intelligent build up than a hectic and rushed play like some fool trying a one time volley to the left side of the pitch and completely shanking it........jeez man relax, control it first and then pass, you just wasted a good chance with a bad ball cause he had to hurry everything.

Regardless, its different for everyone. If you want fast paced end to end action then bpl is your leauge. If you want skillful and beautiful football then la liga is your league. Comparing the two is like making a comparison between orange and mango.

Where am I going with this? uhh yeah just because cronaldo plays in the english league doesnt mean he is going to get special preference over players from la liga or serie a.

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Where am I going with this? uhh yeah just because cronaldo plays in the english league doesnt mean he is going to get special preference over players from la liga or serie a
dude you'd be amazed

And alot of people would completely contradict you veiw on la liga by saying, its for pussies and ain't physical or fast paced enough (may not be true, but that dosen't stop people thinking it)
It's mainly down to what you like watching, fast and firey or slow and planned...
But where do you source that there isn't alot of skill in the premier leauge?

your right that you can't really compare them, I prefer the premier leauge because I don't see la liga games

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i prefer the premier league as well not just because i never watch la liga but even if i could id still watch the premier league.

the premier league is very fast and physical but it is full of skill believe me, imo the premier league is one of the most skillfull leagues there is, why do you think everybody would want to play in it if it wasn't skillfull?
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Obviously there is skill in the englsh league but that is not what the league is mainly known for.

My source is me watching some games between low tier teams so yeah it is bit biased.

lol people might think la liga is for pussies but the tackles are harsher compared to bpl.............no thats not my opinion, its Hleb's (How the fu** do I tell how much a tackle hurts a player?)

Nevertheless, it comes down to the person. Comparing the two is like making a comparison between oranges and bananas. Both are nutritious and sweet but in a different way. Similarly both leagues are entertaining but in a different way.

Perhaps my rant was misleading, but what I was trying to convey is just because Cronaldo plays in the english league, doesnt mean he is going to get special preference over players from other leagues.
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well in my opinion , i think that Lionel Messi is the better player
because hes more of a team player than ronaldo is and in the barcelona games messi actually does alot of 1-2's and for manchester united ronaldo sometimes holds the ball too long at the wrong times and someone would tackle him and he would dive on the floor hoping the ref will call the freekick . Well we know that Manchester United rely on Ronaldo alot as you can see at the start of the season he was injured and man united were drawing against mid-table teams and when you look at barcelona they dont fully RELY on messi thats becuase barcelona have an all around good squad and can afford to miss messi for injury for a period time but that doenst prove that ronaldo is better becasue the club needs him more .

Well , Yeah thats my opinion anyway . I agree wiht neoExodus :lol:

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I hate to admit it but barcelona is heavily reliant on messi. Whenever messi has played Barcelona has won 4-1, 5-0, 6-0, 6-1 but whenever he starts on the bench or is rested like today, the score is 1-0 or 1-1

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watch a manu game and a barcelona game u will see that messi is better than c.ronaldo because he simply gives more to the game .

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