ratherton wrote:I'm quite surprised at the reaction to all this.
It's common knowledge that Italian football is corrupt, the fans are violent racists and the players are cheats. It's been like that for at least the last 30 years.
lol, how old are u to write such (sorry for that) b*llsh1t ?
violent racists ? i guess thats the reason for the word "hooligan" having an english origin, hum ?
i guess i got to get used to read such kids-comments in here...
The term 'Hooligan' is taken from the late 1800s after an IRISH (not English) guy called Patrick Hooligan. If you think Ireland and England are the same country, why don't you pop into a Republican bar in Dublin and start shouting "God Save the Queen" !!!
Cheats going back 30 years:
Yes, at various levels from corruption to diving and other dirty tricks by individuals in games.
From Brian Cloughs autobiography when Derby County played Juventus in the European Cup in March 1973
"The lousy stench still fills my nostrils when I think of the attempts at corruption. UEFA later carried out some kind of inquiry, but the truth has remained somewhere swept beneath the carpets in the corridors of power. We got wind that the referee for the 2nd leg of the 'semi' had been offered some kind of bribe (although UEFA's investigation never found out who had tried unsuccessfully to nobble the ref). I couldn't believe my eyes at some of the things that happened in Turin. One of the Juventus substitutes - I think it was the German, Helmut Haller, was seen going into the referee's dressing-room before the match and again at half-time. I'll never know what was said, but one thing's for sure - he wasn't in there to brew a pot of tea. There was no proof of any irregularities between Haller and the fellow German ref, who might just have been friends, but I was livid. We had 2 key players booked well before half-time, Roy McFarland and Archie Gemmill. As as I can remember their only crime was to stand somewhere adjacent to an opponent who flung himself on the floor. Now wasn't that a coincidence? McFarland and Gemmill - 2 players who just happened to have been booked in the previous games - would now, automatically be ruled out of the 2nd leg"
Granted this is only one example but perhaps you have a more accurate account that the manager of one of the clubs involved ???
Violent, racist fans
Absolutely !!! Numerous incidents of black players being abused by fans and players. In 2003, the Roma v Lazio match was abandoned because of fighting.
Perhaps you have a more innocent explanation why in 2000, Lazio supporters put up a banner commemorating Serbian Warlord, Arkan. It was done at the request of Lazio player, Sinisa Mihajlovic.
Ever been to the San Siro as a visiting supporter? I have. If you are smart, get to the back of the section so the home fans above can't vomit and urinate on you. And then don't except any help from the equally violent riot police.
Perhaps bring it foward to just a few months ago when Middlesboro beat Roma in the UEFA Cup. Numerous Boro fans were attacked and stabbed
Do you think Inter Milan got a huge fine (by UEFA standards) and 6 matches behind closed doors for no reason ??
Yes, English football used to have the worst reputation for football hooliganism in Europe. But you know why that is not that case any more ??
Because we accepted it and made sure that we did something about it. Italy don't want to accept what they are and until they do, it will never change.