soccer11 wrote:Panch, you keep bringing up what good teams the south american defenders play for, and it's true. I'm not debating you on that. What I am debating you on is that you don't need these well known players to be successful. I would rather have my defenders from some middle of the pack team that can come together very well than 4 stars who can't gel. .
They were proven shaky in the world cup. Once they show that they can do it in tournament play (these next few weeks) i'll change my opinion on them.
Ohhh, okay, i tho
ught you where saying they had a terrific attack but there defense was nobody - But hold on a minute, just becasue Argentina had a drug addict for a manager last world cup, doesn't mean all their defenses have to be shaky, there isn't 1 player from argentina's defense in the world cup that plays now, so i don't know how you can defend that point man, again, THERES NOT 1 PLAYER FROM THE WORLD CUP IN THIS DEFENSE
and haven't seen these players be shaky EVER, so you can't say they are unreliable, until they do something unreliable MATE
1) in the world cup, the manager, never went to manager school
2) he was a former drug addict
3) he's made multiple CLEAR AND OBVIOUS tactical mistakes
4) that defense was shaky
5) theres no player from THAT defense, on the present defense
6) THAT defense WAS shaky, THIS defense IS NOT
7) I can not say that because Pellegrini's defense in Madrid was shaky, Mourinho's one is shaky, your doing the same but worse
And I don't think I'm biased. I picked Brazil to win the cup last summer because I thought they were the best overall team. Turned out to be wrong unfortunately
Why where they not the best? Because one stupid player made an own goal and that got a silly red? Because Spain struggled to beat Chile, and Brazil wooped them 3-0 .... Games are different, Paraguay played BETTER than Spain, Casillas saved a pk, and Paraguay got a goal called off, is Spain better player for player, yes, but they sh*t their pants scared because they almost said goodbye to their dream - Football is funny, the best team not always wins, specially in tournaments like these, and i thought you where better than saying Brazil clearly wasn't the better team if you check out their previous matches, and the retarded way they got knocked out FELIPE MELO
Argentina may have Messi, the best player in the world, but he is worth nothing if the team doesn't play with him properly, and it is fact that Argentina don't.
You wouldn't say Portugal are the second best attacking team in the world because they have Ronaldo would you?
As I have already said, the Germans were the best attacking side because they played together, despite not having any one player that stood out from the rest.
What are yuo talknig about ? When was the last time you saw Argentina ?
Is Argentina just Messi? OF COURSE NOT, there are 5 or 6 other strikers that are stars in their teams and wanted all over the world, thats why, erase Messi from them and they would still have the best offensive in the world , i shouldn't have to explain this to you at this stage, but i'll be patient -
I can't wait for Argentina to play today, and shut down all the criticisim maradona's team had, this is another team, where the best play, and with a manager that knows what his sh*t, not a drug addict--
Its funny that now not only the defense is unreliable, the attack is "just stars" but they can't play together, what else sucks about them, is the whole country a sh*t hole klc? Should they not even exist? Watch the game tonight son, so you can talk smart things tomorrow(if talking smart things is possible for you) and not crazy miths you have in your head, santa claus isn't real either mate - how can you judge, if the only game they had they DESTROYED, albania 4-0 and only gave them 28% of possesion? how is that defense shaky and that attack all stars-
I'm not posting anymore untill tomorow, after i watch the game, i don't know why i'm gonna watch it, because according to you klc the attack is all stars and only messi, i mean, messi can'¡t beat 11 players so why should i watch it, right? aguero doesn't know how to play, neither does tevez, di maria, milito or higuian, that team is only messi, so why should i spend time watching that team huh? better wath portugal -
Luckilly for me, i live on planet earth, and in reality, and i've been following argentina and know they are playing football and the defense is holding up well, and the attack is looking scary and combining greatly, thats why i know tonight i'm gonna be able to see a big score line, my only wish is that tomorrow i don't come on here and the same fool ignorant, saying how "its all messi", or its just stars and how ole gunar solksjaer is better
luckily i don't have to talk or write anymore, tonight, i'm gonna see argentina score a lot, and defend well, and tomorrow we can see who was right, i know i'm gonna be right, because i have been watching friendly's since the world cup, unlike others who are saying they aren't good based on the shyte team they had in south africa-