Quarter Finals (WC 2010)

soccer11 · Post by **soccer11** » 03 Jul 2010, 20:28

There's criticisms of him every now and then (some rightly deserved ) but then he has a performance like this to show why he's a top 3 keeper in the world.
Spain vs. Germany will be a very good match.
Basically the same team from Euro 2008 for Spain against a totally new and energized German team.
As someone who is rooting for Germany, I'm hoping Torres starts again

2brown347 · Post by **2brown347** » 03 Jul 2010, 20:42

Every game I watch Spain I lose a little faith in them making the final. They're all bite and no bark, except Villa and Iniesta. I have had Spain making the final all along but I'm gonna be surprised if they can make it during regular time. Germany is confident and strong, Spain is skilled and but lacks the scoring touch in the final third.

avipbn · Post by **avipbn** » 03 Jul 2010, 20:45

For me, Im losing faith in Del Bosque. Every time Torres was substituted out the game changes for Spains favor. Yeah Torres is great no doubt, but hes off his form and is coming off an injury. he needs time.

Its obvious that Llorente, Fabregas, Pedro, and Nevas make good starters as it keeps Spain lively in the opponents third.

NewBornProdigy · Post by **NewBornProdigy** » 03 Jul 2010, 20:59

2brown347 wrote:Every game I watch Spain I lose a little faith in them making the final. They're all bite and no bark, except Villa and Iniesta. I have had Spain making the final all along but I'm gonna be surprised if they can make it during regular time. Germany is confident and strong, Spain is skilled and but lacks the scoring touch in the final third.

A ritual De-Torresization around 60 minutes each match gets the furnace fuming again, Fabregas was immense today, as was Xavi and Villa, Iniesta final put in a worthy preformance, hes been a bit off key this tournament so far

meh as strong as the germans are, I am still sticking to the Netherlands vs Spain final I called before the WC. That way the best midfielders of the current generation have a chance to face off for not only the WC glory but also a legend status. (Xavi/Iniesta & Sneijder/Robben)

Eh Lampard and Gerrard are out...

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » 03 Jul 2010, 21:03

Germany will get screwed by Spain. And Ill be laughing when they do. fu**ing Nazis.

Theyll never win the world cup with Spain in the way anyway, so just let them get to the semis for some joy. And anyway Argentina has much more talent then them, and prob bigger chance to win future world cups so no worries.

The only reason Germany won was coz of better teamwork and intelligence. However when it comes to teamwork and intelligence, a team with Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas is the best in the world so yeh.

shahensha · Post by **shahensha** » 03 Jul 2010, 21:08

NewBornProdigy wrote:
2brown347 wrote:Every game I watch Spain I lose a little faith in them making the final. They're all bite and no bark, except Villa and Iniesta. I have had Spain making the final all along but I'm gonna be surprised if they can make it during regular time. Germany is confident and strong, Spain is skilled and but lacks the scoring touch in the final third.
A ritual De-Torresization around 60 minutes each match gets the furnace fuming again, Fabregas was immense today, as was Xavi and Villa, Iniesta final put in a worthy preformance, hes been a bit off key this tournament so far

meh as strong as the germans are, I am still sticking to the Netherlands vs Spain final I called before the WC. That way the best midfielders of the current generation have a chance to face off for not only the WC glory but also a legend status. (Xavi/Iniesta & Sneijder/Robben)
Eh Lampard and Gerrard are out...

rofl!

NewBornProdigy · Post by **NewBornProdigy** » 03 Jul 2010, 21:10

Wanderer wrote:Germany will get screwed by Spain. And Ill be laughing when they do. fu**ing Nazis.

Man, give yourself a sec and read what you write before posting... The attitude you put on aint badass or funny, its just kinda sad

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » 03 Jul 2010, 21:21

NewBornProdigy wrote:
Wanderer wrote:Germany will get screwed by Spain. And Ill be laughing when they do. fu**ing Nazis.
Man, give yourself a sec and read what you write before posting... The attitude you put on aint badass or funny, its just kinda sad

cudnt care less..still stunned..Spains still hav the more intelligent players tho, so theyll prob beat Germany..again..

Pichichi · Post by **Pichichi** » 03 Jul 2010, 22:23

fu**ing idiot, Spain barely managed to get by. Germans will reign supreme, they beat England and Argentina. Spain?? fu**ing fascists and socialist motherfu**ers.

You see how I came off? That's how you come across and it's really childish and unnecessary.

Evan · Post by **Evan** » 03 Jul 2010, 22:42

You see how I came off? That's how you come across and it's really childish and unnecessary.

You need to learn to ignore wanderer. Most of his posts are misspelled, ignorant, biased bulls**t. As you can see he is not the most intelligent of posters.

I still have faith in Spain beating Germany and winning the whole thing, regardless of how they've played so far.

mustahfa14 · Post by **mustahfa14** » 03 Jul 2010, 23:42

I like how so many people have jumped on the Germany bandwagon..its almost pathetic.

Spain barely got by? at least we had some competition.

Germany is overrated:
Game 1: beat a terrible 10 man australia
Game 2: Lost to serbia
Game 3: Bearly beat Ghana. Ghana should have had 4-5 goals.
Game 4: Won a controversial game over a terrible england side
Game 5: Beat an overrated and medioce argentina (argentina had 0 competition up till germany).

While germany is a solid team, which they showed today, you just cant start saying oh they will win, they are the best team! They will beat spain blah blah blahh. Spain has dominated every game possesion wise. They lost to pure luck, to a team that was cowardess. destroyed hondorus. Beat a decent chile team, even with an iffy performance. Beat portugal (actual competition), and just beat a paraguay team that plays defense like their lives depended on it.

If spain doesnt start torres, then im sure they will win the possesion game and will probably win the match as long as the defense holds up.

They should have fun with iniesta, xavi, villa and basically the whole team lol

Pichichi · Post by **Pichichi** » 04 Jul 2010, 00:00

You do realize I was kidding and trying to make a point about Wanderer.... It's not a bandwagon either. They've been very fun to watch and have been very good. Praising a team for doing well is not throwing on a German jersey and screaming go Germany.

As neutrals it's totally fine to choose a team in a match up based upon one's opinion is what I'm getting at.

You come across as very biased too...

soccer11 · Post by **soccer11** » 04 Jul 2010, 01:35

mustahfa14 wrote: While germany is a solid team, which they showed today, you just cant start saying oh they will win, they are the best team! They will beat spain blah blah blahh. Spain has dominated every game possesion wise. They lost to pure luck, to a team that was cowardess. destroyed hondorus. Beat a decent chile team, even with an iffy performance. Beat portugal (actual competition), and just beat a paraguay team that plays defense like their lives depended on it.

I know some people that would argue that

Germany's road to the semi's has been much harder than Spain's. I don't know how that can even be argued. Spain had an easy group and almost screwed that up. Germany were in Group of Death B (some say that group was harder than the Brazil group.)
While England was admittedly down, it's still England. Also, up until that point, Argentina were seen as a team that could possibly win the world cup (I wasn't buying it though).
That's 2 big football powers that Germany beat (by a combined score of 8-1 mind you)
Spain beat 0 football powers.

Spain lost to Switzerland, a team that only scored one goal all tournament, which was against Spain.
Germany lost to Serbia, which many people were picking as their dark horse. It didn't end up that way, but even so, Serbia is an above average side who have some quality players.

You say Spain destroyed Honduras. It was 2-0; hardly destroying. Possession was 57%-43%; not a huge difference.
Germany's best win? 4-0 against Australia, 4-1 against England, 4-0 against Argentina. Take your pick.

Yea, Spain could definitely win, it'll be a good match as I feel Spain haven't played nearly to their full potential but Germany are not overrated. They were an underrated side, not really given a chance before the tournament started. There are definitely people who have jumped on the bandwagon, which will happen.
Anyone who has watched any recent tournaments and has watched Bundesliga could've seen this coming though (in terms of Germany as a team.) The margin of victory in the games has been surprising though.

mustahfa14 · Post by **mustahfa14** » 04 Jul 2010, 02:07

good points, yet i disagree on a few.

Germany's group..group of death? Nah. Ghana was decent, very physical and fast. Thats about it. Ghana should have actually beaten germany, they just couldnt finish. Serbia has decent players, but not the quality to move out of their group. Australia was garbage, the US beat them 3-1 11 on 11. So 4-0 against a 10 man australia means absolutly nothing to me. Yea argentina didnt have competition before germany. Argentina played south korea, nigeria, and greece. Then an overrated mexico. plus they bearly qualified for the world cup. They are argentina though, and have messi, so its an instant top class team right? no.

Spain's road wasnt that hard, but the top 16 and quarters were harder imo. My reasoning is this. Everyone has it out for spain. If every team played against germany like they did spain, it would be a different story.

Switzerland- lets give up and just sit back and hope we get lucky to score. They scored probably the luckiest goal in the competition. Then portugal and paraguay were two of the top defenses in the tournament. portugal actually tried to play soccer too. They had a quality team. Nothing special though. But today was a tough test. paraguay just put everyone back and played defense like their lives depended on it. Then tried to counter when they could. had a few chances. But the reason why spain has been struggling to score is because they have dead weight on the field in torres. He is useless for now. Hasnt done anything.

Once they realize lets start fabregas, maybe pedro (although id rather have him sub in) or start Llorente, then things they will be even more of a threat on the attack.

Well spain's road looks easier than germany's, but its the way the teams play agaisnt spain that makes it harder. \

This will be a fantastic game though. I just think Spain is too much for germany. They just have to watch out for schweintsteiger (sp? lol). hes been playing amazing

shahensha · Post by **shahensha** » 04 Jul 2010, 04:06

mustahfa14 wrote: But the reason why spain has been struggling to score is because they have dead weight on the field in torres. He is useless for now. Hasnt done anything.

Once they realize lets start fabregas, maybe pedro (although id rather have him sub in) or start Llorente, then things they will be even more of a threat on the attack.

Ditto. Agree 100%.

Edit: I am just excited to see Spain face a quality team that has the balls to attack them. Chile did but they werent of equal quality.