ratherton wrote: TommyGun wrote:
Unfortunately, success isn't measure by balancing the books. If Wenger actually spent a small amount of money on a couple of players, Arsenal would walk the league. Instead he tries to pretend that his goal keepers are good enough and Bendtner is a forward and as a result they keep falling short.
That argument about how much the teams cost is a convenient fallback for years of failure. By that benchmark, Blackpool are more successful than Arsenal.
I beg to differ....along with the Financial Fair Play rules due to hit at the beginning of 2012. Wenger won't have to adjust, because that's been his policy from the start. These clubs that haven't spend wisely and didn't invest in their youth players will suffer.
I'm glad we don't depend on going out to drown players in money. It usually just unsettles the current squad...and who wants to do that when you're sitting 2nd? Sure, I would have loved to get a CB but on loan would have been a tough ask for a quality player. Verms is due back and I don't think we need a crowded bench of CB's waiting their turn. Fab's save percentage is 4th in the league....so it's good enough for me.
Oh....now you are joking. I was referring to today's transaction but I'll go there, too. Blackpool doesn't have the revenue stream that Arsenal doesn't, of course. What about Blackpool makes them a success? Their league position? Liverpool was in the relegation zone 2 months back and now they are 7th....so things quickly change. Blackpool doesn't have the facilities or youth program that Arsenal possess, which will continue their success by cultivating talent. When Blackpool are in the EPL for 10 years straight, then you MAY have a case(still small at that)....but you don't now.
Don't get me wrong, I love Holloway as a manager and I think he has a fantastic view of the game, on and off the field.
OK, so these rules come in to place. Are you happy Arsenal are going to defer success until them - if they manage to win anything after 2012. They don't need to spend big to win things now. I'd be furious if I had the misfortune to be a gooner.
The players will be the ones affected by the rule changes. Wages and transfer fees will have to come down. Players will still move to other clubs, Arsenal can't buy everyone.
With regards to the fair play rules. I'm pretty sure clubs will find ways round it.
Charlie Adam's fee never went anywhere near £14m. Redknapp was on the radio last night saying Spurs agreed a fee of around £7m but they couldn't get the signature in time.
Blackpool have been more successful than Arsenal this season in terms of number of points gained against how much the team cost.
No, I'm happy that Arsenal won't have to "snap out of it" in terms of just going around and buying the next big thing at an inflated price. Last time I checked, your tractor boys fell to our gooners so, there ya go.
Arsenal doesn't buy everyone as it is, that's the point. I'd love for you to accurately name another EPL squad that promotes youth like Arsenal has, but you can't.
Sure, there may be loop-holes when the time comes. I'm sure some will try to place non-club revenue on the books for use(City, Chelsea for sure) but hopefully that won't be the case.
The word is that Adam is favoring a move to United/Spurs in the summer now, and never really intended to complete the move to Liverpool. I'm not really sure where he would get a massive amount of playing time in either squad, but I'm sure he's considered that.
You last statement lacks consideration. Arsenal are still in the FA Cup, the Carling Cup Final, Champions League(even when Barca take us out next), and 2nd in the league. If Blackpool were juggling what Arsenal do now...your argument would most likely be invalid. Again, allow Blackpool to stay up in the EPL for 10 years and acquire the means to purchase higher-priced players and internationals. I'd love to compare success at that point, but comparing only 5 months of Blackpool league/shorter FA/shorter CC games vs. Arsenal's packed schedule is a very short measuring stick.
Hell, the guys we have out on loan might roughly the same or more than the Blackpool squad. It doesn't change the fact that our entire squad costs less than Torres, which was the whole point I was making in the first place.