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It was a tale of two halves though. First half Madrid dominated, second half the Barca players got into their rhythm and forced three crucial saves out of Casillas.....one even ended up in the back of net after Messi ran past everyone and set up Pedro but that was called offside. Dont make it sound like Madrid completely dominated Barcelona, whereas others pulled off a surprise with that same tactic.panchester07 wrote:yeah i agree, as i said in my post, quite a few teams before mourinho figured out the playing style that defeated this super barca, mou is a famous case, but there are smaller sides like rubin kazan and hercule that have surprised barcelona in the past the russians, i think, before mou did - and i'm to lazy to research and analyze but there have to be more cases - now the Mou won in the Cup of del Rey was notorious because they created more chances than Barcelona and could have been up in the first half by a few goals, specially Pepe's post but a few other situations - it was also the first time in a long while before real finally beat the super Pep-Team
even though it might be good for my tactical knowledge overall, i can't watch that video, it was too painfull too watch my team suffer the first time, not to mention now watching the rerun and analysis of th ass-whooping
I'm wondering what game you watch manIf you think about it, It was the exact same way in the CL final. Man united actually kept up with Barcelona in the first half, but when the second half started, it was obvious Barcelona wanted it more.
Then again, he Mourinho told him whats up in the first two clasico's, and the only time Pep could tell him "what was up" was against 10, for a suposedly unixestant foul, so i don't know what you're celebrating and rejoicing about - even in camp nou higuian's goal was called off, so i don't know how only being able to win against 10, and looking for a way to get Pepe a red to be able to play your football, is telling anybody "whats up" or doing it on the fieldMourinho's response will be considering Guardiola told him whats up and actually did it too
You clearly didn't read his post fully, because if you did you would have seen;OKay, i'm not gonna reply to the long ass post, but it seems to me, that your telling me that Barca was the big victim here, never hit, never cheated, never dived, never surrounded the ref, never did anything, and that Real Madrid abused them and it was THEN and only THEN, that Barca adopted these nasty diving tactics
Which is by no means saying that Barca didn't cheat, it is just stating that when Real cheat nothing is said, and when Barca cheat the whole world turns on them. Which is unfair regardless.So its completely okay for Madrid to beat us by hook or by crook, but if we adopt the same tactic, its cheating all of a sudden
I can't say I agree with this, I never felt that Barca were under any sort of pressure, I was actually hoping United scored to make the game a bit more interesting. For the first 10 minutes United were shutting down Barca like there was no tomorrow, and that was expected. As soon as the Champions League Final adrenaline wore off, the likes of Park and Rooney stopped chasing the shadows, and Barca put in one of their best displays this season. Not only the accuracy of passing, and fluid movement of the ball, but the sheer speed it was been shifting around and forwards was just too much for United to handle.Man united actually kept up with Barcelona in the first half, but when the second half started
haha no worries kidpanchester07 wrote:Then again, he Mourinho told him whats up in the first two clasico's, and the only time Pep could tell him "what was up" was against 10, for a suposedly unixestant foul, so i don't know what you're celebrating and rejoicing about - even in camp nou higuian's goal was called off, so i don't know how only being able to win against 10, and looking for a way to get Pepe a red to be able to play your football, is telling anybody "whats up" or doing it on the fieldMourinho's response will be considering Guardiola told him whats up and actually did it too
Even though it stings man you have to admit no body saw Messi on the field when Pepe was on, not on the first league game, or the Copa del Rey final, Messi started doing his thing when Pepe got his red -
I can't wait to see the clasico's next year, now that Real Madrid played 4 matches against Barcelona, won 1, tied 2, and lost 1 with a red that obviously afected them he seems to have figured out the way to beat fcb
PS: No hard feeligns lad
But he said it right before the UCL semifinal, talking about the first leg in bernabeu at 20.45,Lastly, you still fail to try and understand what I am saying. Take Pep's words into proper context.........he said he does his talking on the pitch and he will try to win the CL trophy, not the semi-finals against Madrid in particular.
lmfao and pepe shouldnt get a straightjacket? oooook buddypanchester07 wrote:But he said it right before the UCL semifinal, talking about the first leg in bernabeu at 20.45,Lastly, you still fail to try and understand what I am saying. Take Pep's words into proper context.........he said he does his talking on the pitch and he will try to win the CL trophy, not the semi-finals against Madrid in particular.
he said ill give mourinho his particular champions league trophy in the press hall, i'll talk at 20.45 in the field tomorrow-
he wasn't referring to the final because he's not an astrologist and had no way to find out he was gonna be in the final, not to mention it goes against his humbleness personality he plays so he CLEARLY was reffering to the first leg semifinal - U are the won who have understand Pep's word, not me - and last, how the hell is he gonna get in the final without beating madrid![]()
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so he was clearly saying that he was gonna whoop him and show him whats up then and there, not talking about the final in Wembley vs a different team and different manager- thing that he wasn't even close to doing untill Pepe got his red - the only thing he "showed " the world was that he wasn't able to beat madrid with 11 players on the final, and that dani alves should get a few grammy's
agreed man, but i didnt say cheat the system BY packing the field. I said cheat the system as in di maria and carvalho's diving or Arbeloa stomping on Villa and claiming villa dove and etc.klc123 wrote:I don't think packing the midfield with players is cheating the system. On the contrary, many could argue that Barca are cheats for committing overkill by completely raping teams in the midfield with possession and short passing if that was the case.
However, hacking the likes of Messi to pieces is ridiculous, players need protection from such primitive "chopper harris" tactics.