well this is not arguement, i'm just trying to explain what we believe
i don't mean argument in the typical sense. whenever two people disagree on something, and state their separate cases, it's called argument. i know you're just trying to get your point across.
so about hell and death. the 'chosen' ones are the 144,000. the rest of the 'faithful' ones will live in paradise earth. the people who did not get the chance to 'get to know his (Jehovah) name will be given a second chance.' i.e. a baby was just born, and died an early death. he/she will be given a second chance. people who have never heard of Jehovah's Witnesses, will be given second chance. suppose a dictator somehow noticed that what he was doing was all wrong and evil. if he truthfully prayed to god, and changed his life style into becoming a true faithful christian, god will forgive his sins. however, if he prays and expects god to forgive him while still sinning, he will not be forgiven.
a second chance for what? just to be allowed to stay on 'paradise earth'? do people die there? if so, where do they go? if not, isn't that the same as heaven? the point of heaven in protestantism is for people who have asked forgiveness of their sins, and honestly are sorry for them. it seems that in your religion, people go to heaven because they BELONG to the religion, more so than actually FOLLOW it. it seems there's too much importance placed on the fact that they are jehovah's witnesses, and too little importance placed on the fact that they asked for forgiveness for their sins. i realize you probably will not see this as the case, but ask yourself this. if someone lived a life of crime and evil, and then felt sorry for everything they had done, prayed for forgiveness to god (for example, the protestant/catholic god), but didn't really believe in jehovah's witnesses, would they get a second chance?
the 'chosen' ones were chosen at the day of jesus's death. so the 144,000 will stay 144,000. when we live in paradise, we are just living as humans, in paradise. we will not sin, for satan will no longer exist. we will live life to the fullest extent, but we will not go to heaven. and in paradise, Jesus will rule as king over god.
how exactly were they chosen? did god pick the nicest people? or the ones who would help the most people? or was it a random lottery? and about no more sin because satan is gone: it's not satan that makes humans sin. it's our own nature, that we inherited from adam and eve. they were innocent, then they ate the fruit, and now we all suffer for their deception. it's not a matter of satan making us do anything. he caused the initial sin, and ever since, we've been marred by that one, and continue to do it ourselves.
1914 marks the date where peace could never be found again. the world had been changed for good. after many wars in acient times, they were still able to find peace. but, world war 2 was a chain reaction from world war 1, and after world war 2, we were definetly not able to find peace. even now we do not have peace in this world. we are in iraq having war. 911 had occured, costing thousands of lives. so after this 1914, there has been constant war
what's so significant about war? in god's eyes, isn't killing a man the same as stealing? if not, why is the same punishment given for both? there has been sin and evil ever since the garden of eden. there have been constant wars since then as well. when there's not a war, there's always someone, somewhere, doing something wrong (sinning). why is this so different from a war?
the people who has done evil things, will just stay dead. they will not go to any afterlife.
would you consider sinning evil? of course, or at least you should. everyone has done evil things. who's to say the degree to which we've done them matters? assuming the degree of evil did matter, what degree of evil would one need to have in order to be considered "evil" and therefore not worthy of a second chance, or to live on paradise earth? we're all evil in a sense, by nature, and therefore we all should have this punishment.
here's a little story about hell:
many people get confused with hades and hell. In Jerusalem, there was a garbage dump called 'Gehenna'. in this garbage dump, you would burn garbage and bodies of people who have no chance of living in paradise. they were people who were unwilling to change their faith. many peole think of this 'gehenna' as hades. hades is a symbol to where dead people go. people think that hades is hell, and that in hades you suffer forever. but actually hades is a place where the dead go, but they are still considered sleeping. just think of it as the bodies of the dead go to hades, but with no soul. and when god brings paradise, they will be ressurected. so really there is no such thing as hell.
that really doesn't explain why you don't believe in hell. also, it depends on your interpretation of hades, i.e. which culture's "hades" you're using. hades isn't a symbol. it's a real, physical place, where people go when they die. there they are judged and separated according to the way they lived. no wait, maybe hades is a place where only those who didn't accept god go, and wait to go to hell. wait, no, maybe.... it depends on whose version of hades you're talking about. i'm assuming you're using the hebrew version. to prove that there's no hell, you would assume that hell is the same as hades. it's not, by any culture's translation or views. so there is always the *possibility* that hell is real.
so i hope that made sense. most of those were honest questions, so i'm looking forward to see what answers you have. [/quote]